And this time, I actually know what everyone is talking about while they are talking about it!

[sour_idealist]

By which I mean: Tonight I saw X-Men: First Class.

To the surprise of nobody, I have thoughts!

So, I was going to say "Y'all can go enjoy the Erik/Xavier, I am OVER HERE IN THE CORNER WITH EVERYONE ELSE," and then I got to the 'move the satellite' scene and realized my hands had started miming the process of physically shoving their faces together without asking for my permission first. SO UM THAT. Look, they're jerks and all, but snarky domesticity and the possibility of mindporn sort of did me in. That said, OTHER THINGS I SHIP:

• Raven/Angel: Potentially adorable. They can swap stories of their different lives! Raven can forge Angel's wings! (Wow, I spent way too long in Inception fandom.) They can get drunk and cuddle a lot and wake up in the morning and go "Oh Lord did we have sex? We didn't, did we? We didn't? Great.... :(" And then they do, once the hangover is gone. (This can, really, happen either before everything blows up or later.) GIRRLLFRENS, BASICALLY.
• Raven/Emma Frost: Shapeshifters! Bonding over the true-forms thing! Liking each others' true forms without being all Pygmalion-y about it (Magneto.) Giving Emma characterization up in here!
• Emma Frost/Moira MacTaggert! Okay, so this is basically one I came up with earlier in the movie because I was determined to come out armed to provide femmeslash, and then the bit where Moira was sneaking through the nightclub and it cut from her view through the bookcase to another gratuitous shot of Emma's cleavage, which probably wasn't meant to be a POV shot, and there turned out to be easier femmeslash ships to work, but I kinda got attached to this. Angsty foe-yay and futher mindporn! (All Emma Frost ships may be assumed to involve sex via telepathy, but in this one they lack the opportunity for anything else, SO.)
• Raven/Hank: Yeah, he was a jerk about her mutant form, but given that was his own internalization I have a lot more sympathy for that than Magneto's aforementioned Pygmalion-y approach, and, basically: GET IT GURL. No, really, I did love that she got to be the one making clearer advances there.
• Darwin/Alex: This is based entirely off of two looks and the outstretched-hand thing, but Darwin's general kindness and protectiveness as combined with Havok's loneliness could be interesting, and there is enough space to make up common ground, and DAMMIT DARWIN WAS AWESOME HE DESERVED BETTER.
• Edit: bb!Raven/bb!Charles BFF OTP. The kids were really cute.

So basically I am on allllllllllll of the shipping trains.

Beyond that... I mean, as I said and as can be gathered, my interest in the movie stemmed from thinking I might like to be a part of the fandom, or at least know if I had enough of an interest for that. In and of itself, it had great visuals and passable pacing, fairly well acted, but it was a summer blockbuster. Also, SUPERPOWERED LADIES WITH SEXUAL AGENCY ARE EVIL, BLACK DUDES ARE DEAD, ANYONE BUT A WASP DUDE IS EVIL DEAD OR BORING, OUR HERO IS A HYPOCRITICAL JERK BLIND TO HIS OWN PRIVILEGE (oh yes, you expect better of your sister than a little drunkeness, Mr. Keg Stand), OUR SCREENWRITERS HAVE UNFORTUNATELY NOT BEEN SHOT FORCIBLY SUBJECTED TO SOME LESSONS IN WHY THIS IS BAD. I was expecting that - others have discussed it far better than I ever could - and I was able to compartmentalize enough to really enjoy the movie. I don't feel any need to own it, I don't feel a need to see it again, but I had a fun time watching it and I am now wondering whether it's possible to switch fandoms for thelittlebang, because a) this fandom needs a femmeslash epic, I suspect, and b) it will, actually, be easier to wrestle 15,000 words into existence when I can make some things up and am not constantly distracted by my desire to write about the Farron-Viliers family, which is going to be a problem if I keep trying to write Final Fantasy XIII stuff.

(This is, of course, a decision for the morning. And may not be possible anyway.)

Comments

[simply-shipping.livejournal.com]

Fair point. One of us should prompt that.

1stclass_kink wank mostly seems to be centered around the no-underage-prompts issue, though there was one prompt that was in extremely poor taste. Don't think that one actually generated wank, though, since the OP didn't comment and no one was white-knighting.

Also, it seems to be a lot more active than xmen_firstkink, and where there's a lot of activity, wank tends to follow. *sigh*

[sour-idealist.livejournal.com]

I dunno, I don't mean it as character-bashing but it could be very easily construed as such, and that's a can of worms I don't want to open.

And that's true, throw enough people together and someone will start an argument. That said, fetishizing underaged sex creeps me out, but at the same time I think there are enough genuinely interesting stories to be told around it that I don't like the idea of banning it. Even if we wanted to keep out creepiness or really insensitive handling of pain, people can and do have sex before turning 18 without being scarred for life.

On the other hand, if that's where anything is happening...

[simply-shipping.livejournal.com]

True. Oh internet, why can't you invent a font for intentions?

Most of the people objecting to the ban want a) Charles meeting Erik when he's 17, like he claimed in the movie trilogy, b) a clearly defined line for what is 'of age,' c) Charles and Raven's first explorations into sex with each other, or d) ...creepy fetishized underage sex. Or some combination of the above. But since the characters are at the time of the movie at least reasonably likely to be over 18, on the actual prompts posts it hasn't come up too much that I've seen.

And while it's not where everything is happening... It's about to start its' third round of prompts, so it's definitely where a large portion of stuff is happening.

[sour-idealist.livejournal.com]

So where almost everything is happening, then?

And yeah, it isn't something I'd think would be a problem in this particular canon off the top of my head (although I'm kind of surprised that nobody's looking for nightmarish intentionally-terrifying Erik/Shaw... I have been in fando way too long, I'm going to go bleach my brain now.) That said, I'm kind of against banning potential story ideas in any form - I'm a big believer in 'anything can be good if you treat it really carefully.'

[simply-shipping.livejournal.com]

There was a recent Erik/Shaw prompt... I kind of zoomed past it because NOT MY THING, but I have no doubts that any fills will be thoroughly deserving of brain bleach.

And yes, almost everything. :P

[sour-idealist.livejournal.com]

I have no doubt either, but it might be Celebrian-variant brain bleach or it might be Mysterious Skin-variant brain bleach, and if it's the second it should be allowed to exist, albeit with warnings. (Speaking of which: Tvtropes link, disturbing quotes.)

[simply-shipping.livejournal.com]

Oh, I know about Celebrian. Dramatic readings, and I still couldn't last through more than a minute or two because *gag*.

[sour-idealist.livejournal.com]

I have never so much as attempted to read or listen to it. (And I apologize for bringing up the memory, then! But you see what I meant.)

[simply-shipping.livejournal.com]

Yeah. ;) Some of the dramatic readers on YouTube are quite good. Just...nothing can make Celebrian anything more than horrifying Bile Fascination.